Re: [Boost-users] The Boost Community
----- Mensaje original ----- De: Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> Fecha: Martes, Mayo 3, 2005 6:41 pm Asunto: [Boost-users] The Boost Community
Hello people,
In 1998, Bemans Dawes wrote the "Proposal for a C++ Library Repository Web Site" (you can find the paper in (www.boost.org/more/index.htm), which lunched the Boost we all know and love today. The focus of the site was and is the production of high-quality peer-reviewed C++ libraries. Over the years, Boost grew as a community of experienced C++ developers with the will and means to share their expertise and work contributing to the highly respected Boost Libraries. Today, Boost is a somewhat recongisable part of the C++ programming community at large.
Today, the way I see it, Boost as a community encompases only the boost developers, which are just a fraction of the larger C++ crowd. There are certainly Boost users, but I don't think we can say both developers and users form a community. I think is worth and in-the-spirit to reach out for ALL C++ programmers of ALL LEVELS around an "extended" Boost Community whose main sharing point is not just the submission of high-quality libraries but also the efficient and effective use of the language.
I violently support the creation of such a site :) Let me throw in the following issues: 1. Name of the site. As I see it, it should mention the word "Boost" so as to stand clearly among other C++-devoted sites. Something like "Got Boost" (not that I particularly love this name, but you get the idea.) I propose that we do *not* launch a contest to find the name, lest we end up spending three omnths on the issue like it happend witht he Boost logo. 2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site. Is he still holding his offer? 3. Technology. I've been doing a small survey among my workmates and some of them are ardent fans of Plone (www.plone.org), an off-the-shelf community product built on top of a content management system called Zope. I lack direct experience with Plone, but from the info I've been able to gather it supports the following features: * Site structuring using the Zope backend. * News sections. * Forums (with a component called CMF.) * Look&feel tweaking thru CSS. If you want to dig deeper, Zope provides a scripting framework using Python. * Built-in hierarchical database. * User management. * Updating workflow, meaning that everybody can contibrute entries (submitting an HTML doc or with a built-in WYSIWG editor) wiki-style, but we can make these pass thru a moderating filter. * Built-in search. * Open source, free. Preferred deployment platform is Linux, but works on Windows and Mac boxes. As I said, I don't have direct experience with Plone, so if anybody out there does maybe she can assist us on wether this is a suitable product to build the site on. I pass on less tecnhical questions like what kind of content we want to include: IMHO once we have some site prototype set up, it is easier to propose ideas and let the the thing evolve organically, so to speak. Best, Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo
JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z wrote:
----- Mensaje original ----- De: Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> Fecha: Martes, Mayo 3, 2005 6:41 pm Asunto: [Boost-users] The Boost Community
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I violently support the creation of such a site :)
Great. I'll act as the general coordinator here.
Let me throw in the following issues:
1. Name of the site. As I see it, it should mention the word "Boost" so as to stand clearly among other C++-devoted sites. Something like "Got Boost" (not that I particularly love this name, but you get the idea.) I propose that we do *not* launch a contest to find the name, lest we end up spending three omnths on the issue like it happend witht he Boost logo.
I defenitely agree that we need a catching name. And I definitely agree that we better don't poll it out. I like "The Boost Crowd"
2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site.
OK. So did Eric Boelbecker and Jeff Garland. We'll pick the best offser.
3. Technology. I've been doing a small survey among my workmates and some of them are ardent fans of Plone (www.plone.org), an off-the-shelf community product built on top of a content management system called Zope.
OK
I pass on less tecnhical questions like what kind of content we want to include: IMHO once we have some site prototype set up, it is easier to propose ideas and let the the thing evolve organically, so to speak.
Agreed. Fernando Cacciola SciSoft
On 5/4/05, Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> wrote:
JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z wrote:
2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site.
OK. So did Eric Boelbecker and Jeff Garland. We'll pick the best offser.
Be aware that dynamic sites like Plone, Mambo, etc can demand a LOT from your back-end (web servers, MySQL or whatever database) if the site gets serious traffic. -- Caleb Epstein caleb dot epstein at gmail dot com
"Caleb Epstein" <caleb.epstein@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje news:989aceac05050413577d1bc983@mail.gmail.com...
On 5/4/05, Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> wrote:
JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z wrote:
2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site.
OK. So did Eric Boelbecker and Jeff Garland. We'll pick the best offser.
Be aware that dynamic sites like Plone, Mambo, etc can demand a LOT from your back-end (web servers, MySQL or whatever database) if the site gets serious traffic.
Can you put this in numbers so we can evaluate a prospective Server (and using those technologies at all)? TIA Fernando Cacciola SciSoft
I would rather support the Wiki than get involved in creating a new site. (I'm actually using test and smart_ptr right now, so I will probably put together a tutorial on one of them after I release this code to QA in a few weeks.) On 5/5/05, Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Caleb Epstein" <caleb.epstein@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje news:989aceac05050413577d1bc983@mail.gmail.com...
On 5/4/05, Fernando Cacciola <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> wrote:
JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z wrote:
2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site.
OK. So did Eric Boelbecker and Jeff Garland. We'll pick the best offser.
Be aware that dynamic sites like Plone, Mambo, etc can demand a LOT from your back-end (web servers, MySQL or whatever database) if the site gets serious traffic.
Can you put this in numbers so we can evaluate a prospective Server (and using those technologies at all)?
TIA
Fernando Cacciola SciSoft
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"JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z" <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
I violently support the creation of such a site :) Let me throw in the following issues:
1. Name of the site. As I see it, it should mention the word "Boost" so as to stand clearly among other C++-devoted sites. Something like "Got Boost" (not that I particularly love this name, but you get the idea.) I propose that we do *not* launch a contest to find the name, lest we end up spending three omnths on the issue like it happend witht he Boost logo. 2. Hosting. Dave Abrahams volunteered to host the site. Is he still holding his offer?
I am. It might require getting new hosting resources soon, but at least initially I'm sure boost-consulting.com can handle the load.
3. Technology. I've been doing a small survey among my workmates and some of them are ardent fans of Plone (www.plone.org), an off-the-shelf community product built on top of a content management system called Zope.
Yay, Zope! A product of the Python community. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
"Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com> writes:
David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com> writes:
www.gotboost.org
Why not just got.boost.org? Save a domain name.
Ooh, can we use that question mark in the URL? ;-) -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
David Abrahams wrote:
"Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com> writes:
David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com> writes:
www.gotboost.org
Why not just got.boost.org? Save a domain name.
Ooh, can we use that question mark in the URL? ;-)
Well, actually you can... but it'll get rewritten to http://got.boost.org/? Regards, João
Vladimir Krasovsky <vkrasovsky@yandex.ru> writes:
Hello David,
Thursday, May 5, 2005, 12:17:14 AM, you wrote:
I actually love that.
www.gotboost.org
By the way this domain is already used by someone. Can it be a problem?
That's definitely a problem. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
I think the idea is great but why do we need another URL ? I think boost.org could have its home page changed in case this get implemented. For comparing content management systems this site is very good: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix Just click Plone and Mambo and then "compare" button. From only comparing the features I liked Plone better (I don't have actual experience in any of them). Best regards, Mauricio Gomes Pensar Digital phone: 55-11-4121-6287 mobile: 55-11-8319-9610 http://pensardigital.com On May 4, 2005, at 5:17 PM, David Abrahams wrote:
"JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z" <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
Something like "Got Boost" (not that I particularly love this name, but you get the idea.)
I actually love that.
www.gotboost.org
Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
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Vladimir Krasovsky