On Wed, 23 Sep 2020 at 20:20, Niall Douglas via Boost
On 23/09/2020 14:21, Peter Dimov via Boost wrote:
Niall Douglas wrote:
For the record, I've had offlist email discussions about proposed Boost.JSON with a number of people where the general feeling was that there was no point in submitting a review, as negative review feedback would be ignored, possibly with personal retribution thereafter, and the library was always going to be accepted in any case.
Personal retribution, really?
Some have interpreted it as such yes. I have a raft of private email that just arrived there after my post here recounting their stories about being on the receiving end of Vinnie's behaviour, and/or thanking me for writing that post.
Richard, I appreciate your "they're being snowflakes" response and standing up for your friend, that was good of you. You should be aware that I've known Vinnie longer than you, possibly as long as anyone here. I think you'll find you're in the "get it done" philosophical camp (at least that's my judgement of you from studying the code you write), so Vinnie's fine with you. I have noticed, from watching him on the internet, he tends to find most issue with those in the "aim for perfection" philosophical camp. Vinnie particularly dislikes other people's visions of abstract perfection if it makes no sense to him, if it's abtuse, or he doesn't understand it. If you're in that camp, then you might have a very different experience than what you've had. Nevertheless, I believe Vinnie's opinion is important as representative of a significant minority of C++ users, and I think it ought to continue to be heard. I might add that the said "snowflakes" that I've spoken to have all to date agreed with that opinion, we're perfectly capable of withstanding severe technical criticism, indeed some of us serve on WG21 where every meeting is usually a battering of oneself.
Anyway, I have no wish to discuss this further, all I want to say has been said.
Niall, It is unfortunate that you decided to discuss in the great detail the issues of personal interactions with Vinnie *before* the JSON review curtain drops. Such pursuits just make the review manager(s) job (and wizards') much harder than it has to be. No, I don't object to the public collective catharsis. I just think the timing for it was very unfortunate. A reminder to all, we are currently trying to answer a simple question: "Do you think the [JSON] library should be accepted as a Boost library?" based on constructive criticism and technical evidence. Best regards, -- The Review Wizard for Boost C++ Libraries Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net