David, I’ve reviewed the email communication in question and it looks like we were on different pages. I’m not a C++ engineer nor do I have the technical understanding of things like cloud architectures so I will concede that what I wrote might not have aligned with what I had in mind. Instead of pointing fingers or assuming bad faith, let’s clear up any misunderstandings. This is our position: * The C++ Alliance grants the right to reproduce the artwork we have developed for the purpose of publishing the new website and related library assets. In other words, we aren’t setting a legal trap. * The C++ Alliance does not transfer copyright on any source code or artwork, for the reasons Vinnie explained. This is not the Boost tradition. We will, however, make our work open source via the Boost Software License. * The C++ Alliance commits to taking care of the hosting and maintenance of the new website, by paying for services directly. Not by making donations to the Boost Foundation. We hope this clarifies things and will bring us closer to a mutually beneficial solution that will not result in discarding two years of work. On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 2:31 AM David Sankel via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:25 PM Vinnie Falco
wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 2:17 PM David Sankel via Boost
wrote: The C++ Alliance has been in contact with the board and has agreed to assign copyright of the new website to the foundation.
This is false. The new Boost website we developed is a complex web application similar to a Boost C++ library except it is written in Python. We did not assign the copyright for our code to anyone, and a transfer of copyright is unprecedented in the history of Boost. Our code would be licensed under the Boost Software License if anything, but the copyright is ours as is customary.
The C++ Alliance has offered to donate funds to keep the server up and running for a couple years
This is also false. We offered to host the website and administer it, as we are already currently doing. The Boost Foundation has the option, but not the requirement, to adjust the DNS records for https://boost.org (which it controls) to point to our servers. At any time they can change this and point back to their existing web server (called “wowbagger”) which they also own and operate. If they don’t like our changes, they can point the domain away from our server. If they want us to do controversial things, we can refuse. This is only fair. Giving the Boost Foundation complete ongoing control of our work is not acceptable.
I am dismayed. If these things are false then we are not on the same page and I'm baffled at the written communication from your people that indicate otherwise. Either there is some serious miscommunication or we were led on.
At this point, I don't see how I could support the C++ Alliance website becoming boost.org. We can come up with other ways to do a website refresh.
-- David
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