Slow mail archive and link?
I've known this for a long time, but only now decided to bring it up.. The mailman archive is both laggy and unhelpful. There's a significant lag between one sending an email to the list and it being reflected in the archive (https://lists.boost.org/Archives/boost/). I think it took 5 minutes with my latest message. I've noticed that for other mailman web archive lists I subscribe to, like the wg21 lists, there is no significant lag. And they even put a link to the archive for the specific message in the footer of the message immediately. First.. Can the lag be improved? Second.. Can a link to the archive message be included in the message? -- -- René Ferdinand Rivera Morell -- Don't Assume Anything -- No Supone Nada -- Robot Dreams - http://robot-dreams.net
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:48 PM René Ferdinand Rivera Morell via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
First.. Can the lag be improved? Second.. Can a link to the archive message be included in the message?
We (The C++ Alliance) are interested in upgrading to the latest stable version of mailman, which is version 3 (Sam?). If there are also other improvements that can be made in terms of responsiveness and features then we are also interested in that. However we would need the Boost Foundation to cooperate as they own the domain, and Sam no longer has access to administer the DNS entries. Thanks
El 26/03/2024 a las 21:53, Vinnie Falco via Boost escribió:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:48 PM René Ferdinand Rivera Morell via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
First.. Can the lag be improved? Second.. Can a link to the archive message be included in the message?
We (The C++ Alliance) are interested in upgrading to the latest stable version of mailman, which is version 3 (Sam?). If there are also other improvements that can be made in terms of responsiveness and features then we are also interested in that. However we would need the Boost Foundation to cooperate as they own the domain, and Sam no longer has access to administer the DNS entries.
I integrate Boost ML with Thunderbird using a NNTP gateway (gmane). There is a noticeable delay (I don't know if it's due to mailman or gmane). Is this NNTP gateway mechanism expected to survive the upgrade? Best, Ion
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 2:32 PM Ion Gaztañaga via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
Is this NNTP gateway mechanism expected to survive the upgrade?
Based on previous feedback from the mailing list, our approach prioritizes keeping existing things working so I would generally say "yes" but Sam would need to verify the specifics of that. Thanks
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 3:32 PM Ion Gaztañaga via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
I integrate Boost ML with Thunderbird using a NNTP gateway (gmane). There is a noticeable delay (I don't know if it's due to mailman or gmane). Is this NNTP gateway mechanism expected to survive the upgrade?
How does Thunderbird using an NNTP gateway (gmane) connect to the current mailman2 lists.boost.org ? If it's via standard email protocols (sending and receiving email), then it should continue to work in the future. Mailman version 3 is a complete rewrite, and adds an interactive Django web interface to view the archives. But it still mainly works as a mailing list. With mailman3, there is minimal lag to post a message on the archives, a few seconds.
El 26/03/2024 a las 23:04, Sam Darwin via Boost escribió:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 3:32 PM Ion Gaztañaga via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
I integrate Boost ML with Thunderbird using a NNTP gateway (gmane). There is a noticeable delay (I don't know if it's due to mailman or gmane). Is this NNTP gateway mechanism expected to survive the upgrade?
How does Thunderbird using an NNTP gateway (gmane) connect to the current mailman2 lists.boost.org ? If it's via standard email protocols (sending and receiving email), then it should continue to work in the future. Mailman version 3 is a complete rewrite, and adds an interactive Django web interface to view the archives. But it still mainly works as a mailing list. With mailman3, there is minimal lag to post a message on the archives, a few seconds.
I think Gmane does the work, because there is a request URL to add a new list to the gateway: https://admin.gmane.io/ Mailman seems to have also some NTTP gateway support, it looks like it could replace Gmane (maybe improving latency, who knows): https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/do... Best, Ion
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