On 24 March 2015 at 12:37, Andrey Semashev wrote:

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote:

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Hi,

Email from certain people on the list is marked as spam by gmail: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in teamviewer.com but has failed teamviewer.com's required tests for authentication. "

Is there a problem with the setup of this mailing list?

I get this problem too. It's at least a few emails a week that end up there.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Phil Endecott wrote:

Olaf van der Spek wrote:

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Email from certain people on the list is marked as spam by gmail: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in teamviewer.com but has failed teamviewer.com's required tests for authentication. "

Is there a problem with the setup of this mailing list?

$ dig txt teamviewer.com [snip] teamviewer.com. 600 IN TXT "v=spf1 include:mailgun.org include:spf.mandrillapp.com include:smtproutes.com include:smtpout.com ip4:46.163.100.196 ip4:46.163.100.194 a:mail.teamviewer.com a:mailers.teamviewer.com ~all"

$ spfquery --mail-from teamviewer.com --helo wowbagger.crest.iu.edu --ip 129.79.39.203 softfail Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=teamviewer.com&ip=129.79.39.203&receiver=spfquery spfquery: transitioning domain of teamviewer.com does not designate 129.79.39.203 as permitted sender Received-SPF: softfail (spfquery: transitioning domain of teamviewer.com does not designate 129.79.39.203 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.79.39.203; envelope-from=teamviewer.com; helo=wowbagger.crest.iu.edu;

This is one of the fundamental problems with SPF. I suspect that you'll see the same issue with emails from me. I don't think it is the responsibility of the list to resolve it; either the sender needs a more relaxed SPF rule, or the recipient needs more relaxed checking.

I don't agree. Isn't there a proper solution for this? -- Olaf

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Christian Hägele wrote:

I'm using my e-mail account to write this mail from the same domain as Marcel does. I hope this mail is not marked as spam.

I would appreciate if somebody would give feedback if this mail is marked as Spam by Gmail or similar providers.

It would have been, if not for my filter. Gmail displays this warning: This message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created.

On 25 March 2015 at 12:33, Christian Hägele wrote:

Am 24.03.2015, 19:27 Uhr, schrieb Marcel Raad :

Email from certain people on the list is

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marked as spam by gmail: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in teamviewer.com but has failed teamviewer.com's required tests for authentication. "

I guess that's me. Probably because I use Gmane's web interface to post messages instead of my e-mail account.

I'm using my e-mail account to write this mail from the same domain as Marcel does. I hope this mail is not marked as spam.

I would appreciate if somebody would give feedback if this mail is marked as Spam by Gmail or similar providers.

Yeah I found both yours and Marcel's in my spam folder (gmail).

Christian H?gele wrote:

I'm using my e-mail account to write this mail from the same domain as Marcel does. I hope this mail is not marked as spam.

That's not going to change anything compared to posting from e.g. gmane. The spam-classification due to SPF (see my previous message) is due to the mailing list server sending a message apparently from teamviewer.com that does actually come from an IP address that is allowed by teamviewer.com's SPF rules. Regards, Phil.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Christian Hägele wrote:

Am 24.03.2015, 19:27 Uhr, schrieb Marcel Raad :

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Email from certain people on the list is marked as spam by gmail: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in teamviewer.com but has failed teamviewer.com's required tests for authentication. "

I guess that's me. Probably because I use

It's from @yahoo too

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Gmane's web interface to post messages instead of my e-mail account.

I'm using my e-mail account to write this mail from the same domain as Marcel does. I hope this mail is not marked as spam.

I would appreciate if somebody would give feedback if this mail is marked as Spam by Gmail or similar providers.

It is: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in teamviewer.com but has failed teamviewer.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more"